03-04-10 07:04 AM - Post#91219    

i am having a problem with rust on my handguns and longuns, i keep them in a safe in my bedroom closet. i take them out once a month to clean and reoil, i took them out this morning and a few have rust on them. i have 8 long guns and 2 have rust on the sights, trigger, and side, the rust is speckled on them not bad and it did come off mostly but i can still see a little more. i have 3 handguns and one of them has a rusty ejector, and recoil spring. i did notice that its the guns i have yet to shoot that have rusted but i take them all out about once a month to reoil. i use barricade, and rem oil are they good oils? i keep a humidity gauge in my closet, it stays around 50-60% is that high? do i need to change oil or get a dehumidifier?, thanks for any help.

03-04-10 08:12 PM - Post#91239    

    In response to old fart

You need to lower your humidity.

There are no exact guide lines but a good general humidity is about 40-45%.
Below 30% and you risk drying out your wood and leather components.
Above 60% and you are almost (but not definitely) guarenteed rust.

I would not recommand using a dehumidifer because they will have to be pluged in (unless battery operated)and require that you either keep coming back and emptying the water from the tray, or hook them up to a drain.

There are a number of desicants on the market designed for use in gun safes.
A quick internet search will give you information on what is available.
Many have indicators that tell you when they are saturated and need to be dryed out (usually by simply placing them in a hot oven for a few minutes).
I would strongly recommand using one of these.

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03-05-10 02:14 AM - Post#91241    

    In response to PAConstable1

Remington makes a gun safe dehumidifier that is not electricly powered,turns color when full and you then put in the oven to dry it out and use over again..@ $29.00.Also try storing your guns in "gun socks".They're silicon inpregnated..@3/$15.00.

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03-05-10 11:37 AM - Post#91259    

    In response to helorider

• helorider Said:

Dessicant with an indicator. That's what I use.

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03-07-10 03:19 PM - Post#91315    

    In response to helorider

A Dehumidifer is an electrical appliance that reduces the moisture in the air by condensing it on to a cold surface.
It is a purely mechanical device that works similar to an Air Conditioner.

A Dessicant is a compound (natural or artifical) which draws water molecules from the air through absorption.
It is a purely chemical reaction.

I am fimilar with the device you are talking about.
Even though it is advertised by/as a "dehumidifer" it is actually a dessicant.

School teaches us the Precious Metals are Gold, Silver and Platinum. Life teaches us they're really Brass, Copper, Lead and Steel.

03-08-10 02:10 AM - Post#91328    

    In response to PAConstable1

Gotchya,Knew what I meant,just didn't use the right termonology.Thanx

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03-08-10 04:44 PM - Post#91369    

    In response to helorider

Ah my fav subject. I am so happy to see you at least check your guns once a month...most people let months go by believe it or not.

Here is something that most people do not realize. Use a wool sleeve on your guns. Wool breaths unlike synthetics or leather. When you have your gun in a wool sleeve, obviously use Rem Oil, since you mention you do use that product...and yes it is a good oil. For the first couple of months use the oil a little on the heavy side so the wool sleeve will soak it up a little on the inside.

If you don't trust the wool sleeve at first, place one gun in the wool sleeve to compare for next month. I guarantee wool sleeves defiantly help in the humidity range you had mentioned. Your humidity isn't outrageous because you maybe in a climate where it is normal.

You have to keep in mind what did people use back in the day when there wasn't all this technology. And lastly, please keep your guns, barrel down, in the safe. You don't want to have a little heavy dose of good Rem Oil sit there and pool up on the wood and cause problems later. Hope that was a big help! www.extremeguncare.com

03-28-10 10:50 AM - Post#92458    

    In response to old fart

That is a high humidity for iron containing materials. PAC is right - 40-45% is about the best you can hope for when you have a "mixed" collection - that is metals, cellulosics, leathers, etc.

Agree with others - use silica gel dessicant with an indicator strip, but having a gauge is handy too if it is of quality and calibrated regularly. Use the appropriate amount for your cubic volume of course.

While there may be merit to it, I do not store gun barrels down, but I do use Bore-Stores. If you get oil pooling, it is my opinion that you've used too much oil - consider grease. RIG, now that it is back and being made by Birchwood Casey is something to consider. I use this on all of my guns and blades. Not a messy as oil, super-easy to work with, cheap, very protective. It can be used in barrels, obviously clean well before shooting!

Dieter

03-28-10 02:12 PM - Post#92470    

    In response to Dieter

best answer is get rid of any guns with wood on them and shoot for zero percent humidity.!

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04-04-10 03:30 AM - Post#92645    

    In response to locutus

if you realy realy want to be cheap
paper cup full o rice in the safe works
(rice is very dry and very absorbent)

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